I honestly welcome anyone trying to punch holes in my assumptions. the goal here is to learn something, not to establish myself as someone who doesn’t make mistakes. Look at my Google spidering request post. It is based on a fundamentally wrong premise and I wouldn’t have learned this unless I wrote about it.

@Will: the point of the post is the SPEED at which Google indexes the site after Sphinn submission, not the indexing itself.

My posts show up in Google indexes immediately.. sometimes so fast it almost scares me.. I’ve posted an article, read it it over, decided I needed to punch it up, gone to Google to search for related stuff and found my own article minutes after posting it!

Well my blog is just at the beginning. It will take a while until I get to 14-15 submissions to Sphinn and by that time I assume it will accumulate some link love. But you are right about the need to see it happen several times in order to call it a phenomena.

>>>IMHO, if you have sites taking months to get indexed, there’s a problem with the root site.

I don’t know. It could be other things. Maybe the Wordpress platform together with sphinning gave it indexing priority. BTW, Google is now pulling my category and archive pages which were not sphinned, so it seems to be speeding up the deep-site indexing as well.

>>>>I will admit that I didn’t Sphinn this story. The whole “did it get indexed in an hour” is moot, because simply being indexed doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme. It’s no different than blog and ping or any other “shortcut to being indexed” – it does you no good in the end, because you need links to rank and with links, you’ll get indexed anyway.

First of all kudos for not sphinning something you did not think was worthy. I have started contributing only recently but have been reading since the very beginning of sphinn and the amount of unworthy votes is absolutely disappointing. For example the recent story of Google adding more site links has been sphunn through 3-4 different stories. And each time it got 14-15 sphinns, so people are voting just because the submitter is popular or whatever. I appreciate these discussions much more.

Regarding the links, there is nothing we disagree on here. In the great scheme of things this is probably not the most crucial thing, however I believe in small pieces of puzzle which may not be important right now but can be very helpful to someone sometimes down the line.

How many times in a row did it do it? If you submitted 14 articles to Sphinn and it did it 13 out of 14, I’d put some weight i that theory. But, because this is one instance, its very possible that it was happenstance… you may have just submitted at the very right time.

>>>If you know of other sites that would cause that kind of effect, I would be more than happy to hear

I’ve had the experience with Digg and numerous other sites. My own site is pounded pretty hard and whether or not a post of mine gets submitted to any site, it’s indexed within a few hours. Same goes for my boyfriends blog, that he hardly ever writes in and has little “authority”. IMHO, if you have sites taking months to get indexed, there’s a problem with the root site. The problem is NOT being indexed within a day or two… it’s not “out of this world” that Sphinn would GET you indexed within a day or two (or a few hours).

I will admit that I didn’t Sphinn this story. The whole “did it get indexed in an hour” is moot, because simply being indexed doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme. It’s no different than blog and ping or any other “shortcut to being indexed” – it does you no good in the end, because you need links to rank and with links, you’ll get indexed anyway.

>>>> Wrong. Indexed and ranking are not the same thing.

Of course not. I was not talking about ranking for competitive terms. I was talking about appearing in SERPs for site: query. And if we are talking about rankings, I agree that ranking for competitive terms will need additional, ripe link juice, however i assume that the long tail keywords may start bringing in visitors, as was the case with [seo scientist] query.

>>>>>>Has nothing to do with “sphinning” it… its because you got it a link from a site that is frequently crawled. That link could have come from ANYWHERE, including the comments of a popular blog, yadda. Sphinn individually had nothing to do with it.

Sorry if I presented myself as so clueless to insinuate that there is something about “sphinning” more than the link for Googlebot to crawl. It was never my intention. However, as I wrote in response to Jill on Sphinn, I have never seen any of my pages show up in SERPs so quickly, even if it is only a site: query. I got links from Digg, from Technorati, from Stumbleupon, anywhere, it always took much much longer for Google to report the page in index. That is what I found interesting about Sphinn – it is of such authority that it gets Googlebot to crawl AND show your site in SERPs immediately.

>>>>> That line means that Google crawled your page 1 minute ago. It doesn’t mean it got indexed a minute after you posted it on Sphinn, unless you checked for it to be indexed a minute later (after submitting it), which it appears from the post you didn’t.

Again, sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, but that is PRECISELY what I did. It is only natural to check the speed at which Google will show a page in index after writing a post exactly on that topic. So, yes, the page was indexed a minute after the submission.

>>>>>Because Google came back (thus, the boasting by them of faster indexing) and saw your main page had changed and went to the new content.

LINKS cause indexing. Sphinn is just a place that gets crawled quickly and will get you discovered quickly. The same could be said for any A, B or even C list blog.

My point was that it has never happened to me before with any A, B or C list blog nor other article/blog distributing site. That si why i thought this was interesting. It is obvious that those are links that cause indexing, but links from Sphinn cause much faster indexing than any other links I have ever seen. If you know of other sites that would cause that kind of effect, I would be more than happy to hear.

>>>>I admire you testing and tweaking and trying things in public. Hopefully this helps.

Thank you so much for stopping by, commenting and sphinning. It helps alot